tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post1957204539286709593..comments2024-03-19T02:26:22.950-07:00Comments on dhamma musings: The Pastor Tan FalloutShravasti Dhammikahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06246408068143301108noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-47338445453392215882010-02-18T23:46:43.561-08:002010-02-18T23:46:43.561-08:00Hi Bhante and all,
The video (at first glance it ...Hi Bhante and all,<br /><br />The video (at first glance it even looks like a Buddhist video) below has been produced by a Singaporean Christian in response to the case of Rony Tan. Please click on the link below to view it. Highly recommended:<br /> <br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOpuRBpTFQAreasonablehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14971948580051107601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-2471721482698317292010-02-18T00:06:06.016-08:002010-02-18T00:06:06.016-08:00theonlinecitizen.com has published an article on b...theonlinecitizen.com has published an article on bante's blog & it can be read here<br /><br />http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/bigotry-of-one-–-faith-of-another/Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06294662445858908188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-4293706238019535752010-02-17T17:51:10.958-08:002010-02-17T17:51:10.958-08:00I had also written a comment on my blog http://hal...I had also written a comment on my blog http://halftimeadventurer.blogspot.com/2010/02/comments-on-nus-buddhist-societys-nusbs.html regarding the views expressed by NUSBS on Rony Tan.Sunnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02739118700547255109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-37712876698633306752010-02-17T10:15:53.876-08:002010-02-17T10:15:53.876-08:00From ThinkAgain:
38 Point-by-point Clarifications...From ThinkAgain:<br /><br />38 Point-by-point Clarifications of Misconceptions in Pastor Rony Tan’s Vids can be seen @ <br />http://tinyurl.com/ygerfp3moonpointerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04141339963282120527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-57682897500972940132010-02-17T00:41:28.702-08:002010-02-17T00:41:28.702-08:00Starbucks said...
"Consider it "God'...Starbucks said... <br />"Consider it "God's grace" that this Tan fellow did not insult the muslims. This Tan fellow is damned "lucky" ths time."<br />What Justin Choo meant was that Pastor Rony Tan could have had a fatwa declared on him, just like tha case of Salman Rushdie. Then he would really have to pack his bags and go into hiding.<br />---------------------------------<br /><br />Alright, this may be true or otherwise. <br /><br />Just to educate other posters here, a fatwa may be made by any Islamic religious authority (or unauthorised). <br /><br />However what others may not know is that Fatwa is non-binding. Muslims do have a choice whether to heed the fatwa or not. There are fatwas which are conflicting even within a region, followers may choose one which suits them best. <br /><br />Majority of the Muslims worldwide never bothered or cared about the Salman Rushdie's fatwa, its the western media that have blown it out of proportion. <br /><br />Do you really believe if Salman Rushdie is found strolling along the Singapore's street, he will be killed by your fellow Muslim neigbours? There are numerous fatwas issued which say killing is a sin as big as killing the whole mankind.<br /><br />Its just that there are always others who tried to drag Islam and Muslims into conflicts. Leave them alone peacefully this time. Please.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13048659624877373615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-14329137930170087682010-02-17T00:12:52.347-08:002010-02-17T00:12:52.347-08:00"Consider it "God's grace" that..."Consider it "God's grace" that this Tan fellow did not insult the muslims. This Tan fellow is damned "lucky" ths time."<br />What Justin Choo meant was that Pastor Rony Tan could have had a fatwa declared on him, just like tha case of Salman Rushdie. Then he would really have to pack his bags and go into hiding.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16426983333274100928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-62567684735997899142010-02-16T19:47:47.158-08:002010-02-16T19:47:47.158-08:00Justin Choo said...
Consider it "God's g...Justin Choo said... <br />Consider it "God's grace" that this Tan fellow did not insult the muslims. This Tan fellow is damned "lucky" ths time.<br />-------------------------------<br /><br />Are u suggesting that the Muslims are aggresive in defending their religion?<br /><br />Here's why. <br /><br />Islam is probably the biggest foe in the Christian world. Since Day One, insults and denigrading words are targetted towards Muslims and Islam from those group.<br /><br />This has made the Muslims tired and weary and made them response in such an agressive manner to stop all this centuries-old hammering of Islam. <br /><br />The Buddhist are luckier as to not being treated by these groups like the Muslims are being treated.<br /><br />Having said the above, I am in no way condone any violent or offensive acts even if its to defend the religious.<br /><br />It is my personal view above as to why the Muslims acted like they acted before since you have brought up this subject.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13048659624877373615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-675036992237854812010-02-15T06:27:19.957-08:002010-02-15T06:27:19.957-08:00Sunny: I think the legal responsibilities are more...Sunny: I think the legal responsibilities are more or less outlined in the Religious Harmony Act. I think every religious leader (and follower) should know it, but it may not be enough. It's the "optional" responsibility of understanding other faiths that is needed to make considerate behavior really come from the heart, otherwise such actions/speeches like Pastor Tan's are likely to just continue underground. Such understanding, in this age of information, can be had easily if one makes up one's mind to get it. Alas, it's a big if.Janet Chuihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05335689924517895821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-36706545372062746112010-02-14T12:54:49.354-08:002010-02-14T12:54:49.354-08:00My suggestion is that the various religions' l...My suggestion is that the various religions' leaders should work with the government to develop a course to teach clerics about the legal responsibilities of religious teachers. For example, a cleric can say that his God or Buddha is good but not ridicule other religions' God or Buddha.Sunnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02739118700547255109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-56208697473803923152010-02-13T00:48:04.331-08:002010-02-13T00:48:04.331-08:00Dear Eterna2
These and other related statistics ca...Dear Eterna2<br />These and other related statistics can be found in ‘Negotiating Christianity with Other Religions’ by Matthew Matthews in Religious Diversity in Singapore, 2008. Mathews study indicates that inter-religious dialogue in Singapore has little support from the clergy of conservative and evangelical Christian denominations.Shravasti Dhammikahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06246408068143301108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-34051325929682007942010-02-12T20:02:16.650-08:002010-02-12T20:02:16.650-08:00Hi Bhante,
I was interested ur comment on the pol...Hi Bhante,<br /><br />I was interested ur comment on the poll on inter-religion charity efforts, but was unable to access "rix77holyspirit.blogspot.com" (it gave me blog not found). Is there any other references to this particular poll? And is it in Singapore context?<br /><br />Because if it is really so, I am kinda disappointed with the mainstream media for giving me a "false" impression. I always had this impression that most major religious groups have no qualms about having jointed charity efforts for a common cause - I mean, I seriously can't think of any good reasons why not. <br /><br />I did not know that there are denominations who refused to join the Inter-religious Organization. I was not able to get any info from the website, but I am very disappointed.<br /><br />And I think the reverse of "shame society" idea is not a bad one.Eterna2https://www.blogger.com/profile/12153272866185167630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-59229325192370713062010-02-12T17:31:02.742-08:002010-02-12T17:31:02.742-08:00Youths involved in Facebook racism incident to be ...Youths involved in Facebook racism incident to be given 2nd chance<br /><br />http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1037202/1/.html<br /><br />Guess those boys have Tan to thank for.Nilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00748893601925633581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-42458079111245215802010-02-12T16:20:36.342-08:002010-02-12T16:20:36.342-08:00Just one comment on inter faith dialogues.
My loc...Just one comment on inter faith dialogues.<br /><br />My local monk was invited to be the Buddhist representative in public presentations held every two months over a couple of years.<br /><br />The organizers were an American Christian group, and the topics were supposedly open to all faiths with presentations limited to 15 minutes each, followed by questions.<br /><br />In reality, the Christian side chose every single topic and ignored the suggestions of other faiths. While the other religions did stick to the 15 minutes allowed the Christians usually took 40 minutes or longer.<br /><br />In general, the only thing that people found interesting were the Buddhist presentations, and even the Muslims were impressed.<br /><br />As for the Muslim presentations, the Islamic audience usually consisted of Saudis and Pakistanis so both had a different view of what Islam was and could never agree on anything, however, their disagreements were amusing and polite.<br /><br />As for the Christian presentations they were boring and generally had no reasonable substance, so question time was always complete silence.<br /><br />Interestingly, the Buddhist monk was the only one considered to be speaking a language that everyone could understand and was subsequently invited to Saudi Arabia and Pakistan by the Muslims, and to India by the Hindus in the audience, to which he politely declined.<br /><br />In general, the Muslims were friendly and polite, whereas the Christian Americans were aggressive and generally impolite without even being aware of it; dreadful, self-centered people.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17227074376961100857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-80368248232675899852010-02-11T15:52:38.405-08:002010-02-11T15:52:38.405-08:00Dear Kenneth,
The Jain Religious Society was found...Dear Kenneth,<br />The Jain Religious Society was founded in 1973 and is near the corner of Jalan Eunos and Sims Av. They are not hell-bent of on ‘saving’ people so you don’t often hear about them. Have a look at www.sjrs.org.sgShravasti Dhammikahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06246408068143301108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-74388190072805812010-02-11T08:58:16.435-08:002010-02-11T08:58:16.435-08:00Consider it "God's grace" that this ...Consider it "God's grace" that this Tan fellow did not insult the muslims. This Tan fellow is damned "lucky" ths time.Justin Choohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11275697990382930245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-38276484031697552582010-02-11T08:03:14.203-08:002010-02-11T08:03:14.203-08:00Oooh where's the Jain temple in Singapore? Nev...Oooh where's the Jain temple in Singapore? Never knew we had one.Kennethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04860127635276778840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-27037194872569457092010-02-11T07:39:37.184-08:002010-02-11T07:39:37.184-08:00A big tree that holds more monkeys when cut down w...A big tree that holds more monkeys when cut down will cause those monkeys to run amok. <br /><br />A small tree can be cut down without affecting a lot of monkey.<br /><br />The lesson? It is more easy to contain and capture a few monkeys.<br /><br />Now that's the different.Nilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00748893601925633581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-21135120974559414872010-02-11T07:30:13.656-08:002010-02-11T07:30:13.656-08:00I agreed with Bhante's observation of Catholic...I agreed with Bhante's observation of Catholics being more pro-active in inter-faith dialog and event compare to the other denominations. <br /><br />This was evident in the recent inter-faith dialog and the exhibition at Suntec where only the Catholics were there and there was no sight of the other Christian denomination.<br /><br />This is so sad that there are people in the other denomination who does not practice peace or love thy neighbors.<br /><br />As always it is the people that are behind all this bull shit.Nilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00748893601925633581noreply@blogger.com