tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post3714737977462714106..comments2024-03-28T14:11:24.265-07:00Comments on dhamma musings: Female MonksShravasti Dhammikahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06246408068143301108noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-54843566450677943402008-12-20T02:24:00.000-08:002008-12-20T02:24:00.000-08:00Dear Barry,'Sunim' is good but it would not be imm...Dear Barry,<BR/>'Sunim' is good but it would not be immediately meaningful to non-Koreans. Even my spell-check doesn't respond to it. Dhamma is not, as you correctly say, gendered, but people are. So again I ask, 'What's wrong with 'nun'? <BR/>I read your blog and enjoyed some of your posts. Your 'Truth' post of Nov 20 made me smile, especially the first one.Shravasti Dhammikahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06246408068143301108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-86556903012162862682008-12-17T12:33:00.000-08:002008-12-17T12:33:00.000-08:00In the Korean Zen tradition, both monks and nuns a...In the Korean Zen tradition, both monks and nuns are addressed in an identical way: sunim. This term is appended to the person's dharma name (Dae Kwang Sunim, Myo Jin Sunim, etc.) as an indication that they have ordained.<BR/><BR/>Not all traditions find it necessary to distinguish between genders when it comes to the dharma. Indeed, we might ask ourselves if the dharma is gendered?<BR/><BR/>Justin Choo directed me to your wonderful blog and I've put up links to it from Ox Herding (www.oxherding.com) and my other blogs. Thanks for your efforts in reaching out to others!<BR/><BR/>BarryBarryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09412033978642026623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-5000430818367305842008-12-16T02:07:00.000-08:002008-12-16T02:07:00.000-08:00Dear Konchog,So it was the wind. Good. I'm back to...Dear Konchog,<BR/>So it was the wind. Good. I'm back to feeling happy again. I would be most interested to know what you are doing in Mongolia and what the state of Buddhism is like there. I will leave my address on your blog.Shravasti Dhammikahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06246408068143301108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-47943367461415883052008-12-16T01:39:00.000-08:002008-12-16T01:39:00.000-08:00Venerable -- my comment actually came off as snipp...Venerable -- my comment actually came off as snippier than I intended, sorry. I recently highlighted your blog on my own as one I recently found that I think is truly excellent.<BR/><BR/>And yes, the winds up here are a bit chilly; it's -21C at the moment!<BR/><BR/>OK, rock on.Konchoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14520077044824861391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-30932498482867553092008-12-16T01:01:00.000-08:002008-12-16T01:01:00.000-08:00Dear Konchog,I was delighted to receive your earli...Dear Konchog,<BR/>I was delighted to receive your earlier comment, the first I have ever got from Mongolia. I was also interested to see that like me you have an interest in birds. <BR/>In my post my jibe was at political correctness, not at Americans, and the whole was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. I'm sorry you didn’t read it that way. Could it be those cold Mongolian winds?Shravasti Dhammikahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06246408068143301108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-40551243794422967612008-12-15T09:01:00.000-08:002008-12-15T09:01:00.000-08:00Bhante,I think that the idea that stands behind ex...Bhante,<BR/><BR/>I think that the idea that stands behind expression "female monk" is that "a monk" is one who has received full ordination. As you know, there are Buddhists nuns in Thervada Buddhism, but they generally are 10 precepts nuns. So to distinguish one from the other people started to call bhikkhunis by "female monks".ene.duehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15430027670044530763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-74846799445714709042008-12-15T05:35:00.000-08:002008-12-15T05:35:00.000-08:00All these expressions have baggage primarily of a ...All these expressions have baggage primarily of a Christian sort.<BR/>If we want to avoid those connotations (of either obedience in the case of a monk, or a performer of ceremonies, in priest) why not use bhikkhu and bhikkhuni for those who have had higher ordination, or samanera, samaneri for novices?Ken and Visakhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16713910044241151429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-7788127728653575722008-12-15T05:17:00.000-08:002008-12-15T05:17:00.000-08:00Keep digging at Americans if you like, but in ever...Keep digging at Americans if you like, but in every American center I've been to with female ordained, they're called nuns. We also use the affectionate Tibetan term "Ani," though I've heard that some nuns consider this a bit pejorative.<BR/><BR/>Not sure your choice of graphic for this topic is going to win you any popularity contests either...Konchoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14520077044824861391noreply@blogger.com