tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post3441402099250220999..comments2024-03-28T14:11:24.265-07:00Comments on dhamma musings: Vegetarianism VShravasti Dhammikahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06246408068143301108noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-63869558761183665382008-07-05T23:18:00.000-07:002008-07-05T23:18:00.000-07:00From http://www.shabkar.org/teachers/tibetanbuddhi...From http://www.shabkar.org/teachers/tibetanbuddhism/<BR/>orgyen_trinle_dorje.htm -<BR/><BR/>H.H. Orgyen Trinle Dorje, Karmapa XVII*, is vegetarian since a few years. At January 3, 2007, he made a strong statement against eating meat within his monasteries and centers. With immediate effect:<BR/><BR/> * No meat is to be prepared in the kitchen of any Kagyu Monastery or Centre.<BR/> * No one is to be involved in the business of buying and selling meat – for all of his students this practice must stop.<BR/> * There is to be no killing of animals on Kagyu premises.<BR/> * Karmapa is aware of monks in robes going to buy meat and does not want to see this ever again.<BR/><BR/>His Holiness also quoted spiritual masters from the past who had condemned the practice of using Tsok (offerings during a gathering) as an excuse for eating meat and drinking alcohol. Leaving absolutely no room for interpretation, Karmapa said that anyone who uses meat and alcohol as Tsok is not part of Karmapa’s lineage.**moonpointerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04141339963282120527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-86269076121263854112008-07-05T22:31:00.000-07:002008-07-05T22:31:00.000-07:00Bhante,All you've written are "open secrets" which...Bhante,<BR/>All you've written are "open secrets" which hypocrites like me do not discuss with monks. As for me, I still maintain that eating "dead" animals is not "killing". However I always qualify that being a vegetarian is very wholesome and healthy too.<BR/><BR/>By the way I wonder where you got all those pictures. They are indeed very appropriate for the topics.Justin Choohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11275697990382930245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-34372168340346546552008-07-05T06:28:00.000-07:002008-07-05T06:28:00.000-07:00“I cannot understand how a person can consider him...“I cannot understand how a person can consider himself a Buddhist and want to eat meat.” <-- hmm, then I would reply to him, in a more extreme manner, I cannot understand how a person can consider himself a Buddhist and want to stay alive. Because, literally, our survival are the results of certain exploitation of other lives, in this cruel samsara.Ser Minghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07942497616476006437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-67199663012795614082008-07-05T04:31:00.000-07:002008-07-05T04:31:00.000-07:00During our 25 years as vegetarians, we have had so...During our 25 years as vegetarians, we have had some odd experiences. In Japan we worked with priests from several sects who were very proud of their Mahayana vegetarian tradition but who weren’t themselves vegetarian. We, as Theravada Buddhists, however, always made teacher gatherings at our school difficult because we didn’t drink or eat meat (nothing that had a face). In Japan ordering vegetarian food was always tricky; one had to specify that a salad be without meat (meaning beef), chicken, ham, shrimp, fish, octopus, sausage, bacon, and squid. If one item got missed, it was probably going to end up in the salad bowl.<BR/><BR/>We never had problems getting vegetarian food in Burma once we learned how to say we were “tatalo.” Years ago we went on a pilgrimage with a judge who was the president of a Burmese society promoting vegetarianism who said vehemently, “I cannot understand how a person can consider himself a Buddhist and want to eat meat.” <BR/><BR/>But then again, let’s not be attached to views!Ken and Visakhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16713910044241151429noreply@blogger.com